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Get Bent! by OffizierHashem Get Bent! by OffizierHashem
:iconarminius1871::iconsaysplz:I deleted that Palestine/ Israel map, I think itīs too offensive or wrong, because I know too less background-story. I didnīt want to offend any people.
:iconkaka0002::iconsaysplz:oh thank you :) , and dont worry you doesn't offending anyone.
:iconarminius1871::iconsaysplz:I hope so, I know the situation in Israel is very difficult, and itīs better when people from there make maps and infos.

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this is an example of submitting to pressure (lobbying techniques in a mini-scale).
if "they" can't convince you of their "point of view" (their ultimate truth) they will at least aim to make you say "the whole Middle-East is so messed up I can't figure it out"...

well, it's not so very difficult.

I'm not into the Palestinian/Israeli conflict over the internet, there are other places to settle this once & for all, it's called "battlefields".

+ personally I think since the whole region gone out of Egyptian rule (from southern Lebanon to eastern Libya & down to southern Sudan) it's going down the drain, but that is another story.



this is a re-upload of a map similar to a one submitted by ~Arminius1871 & which a prominent Zio-troll ragged about til it was gone.

no insults intended towards ~Arminius1871, it's not his fight anyway.
but to the other guy, read the title!
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Verruckt3r Featured By Owner May 20, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Idiots who argue against Palestine saying "there was never a country named Palestine or anything to begin with" well, we can say the same shit about Israel.

Israel owes an apology to the world... hell Jews still haven't said sorry for killing Jesus... Lets not expect anything in haste....
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Imuildaeren Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2012
Israel has a rather good position since no one can nuke it, it being the Holy Land afterall.


One of my aunties did peacekeeping work in Palestine for the Palestinians a few years ago, Israeli's through stones at her heh
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Embers-Of-Satin Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012
While I agree that the the Israeli government should be prosecuted for genocide and/or war crimes, I don't believe that any sort of violence is a solution. Violence merely engenders further hate and violence. Condemning an entire culture for the views and actions of their government puts you on the same level as them, seeing the majority of the population (ie normal people, essentially no different from any other culture/country/religion/etc, just getting on with their lives) as faceless numbers.
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OffizierHashem Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012
oops, totally forgot, when I saw "United Kingdom" on your page I remembered a Channel 4 production I wanted to suggest for you & whoever is reading this: The Promise [link] or if not available try [link]
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OffizierHashem Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012
correction: wandering
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OffizierHashem Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012
your words apply perfectly on American people but not Israelis. they consider themselves an exception to the rule & that is how they should be handled.

if they kept wondering off in Europe & never came here I wouldn't be raging about them right now regarding this specific conflict, may be over something else like financial influence & communist links just like Adi did :)
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cementine Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I've already noticed the topic on the internet, the topic on Israel-Palestine conflict. But to be honest, I haven't seen all those maps together, at the same time.
Thanks for posting and it's simply stupid to delete something because it's "offensive"...
Now, when you look on these maps, it's clear that the idea of bringing the conflict to the end by settling the 1967 borders is bullshit. Some of the reasons is that Palestine will probably be not satisfied and also will strive for connecting the Gaza Strip to the rest of the territory...
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OffizierHashem Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012
the 1967 map is not showing in full because it doesn't show the consequences of the 6 days war in which Israel launched an attack on Egypt & Syria claiming they were preparing to attack... sort of preemptive war.

the 1967 map [link] whole Sinai was lost.

the funny thing about the 6 days war is the Egyptian army in Sinai was in such state of ease (no alert what so ever) it was almost whipped out THUS proving there was no preparation to attack what so ever. yet Israelis keep claiming it was a defensive war.

but who gets annoyed but what J*ws say anyway? :)
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cementine Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
That sounds similar to the excuse to attack Iran today.

Indeed, if it was like this, the attack was sure an unexpected one. Funny how people rage at the fact that Poland was attacked by the Reich without the war declaration, also kinda unprepared. And didn't Israel do a similar thing then? If it was a surprise attack, then yes.
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